You're right Jonny lad, but I think if you posted something like this on Wraggs it might just open the Ultras up for more bad mouthing. Don't know if you have read the SST statement on the meeting between Jon Smart and the owner. The Ultras were spoke about at that meeting, this is thanks to Jon Smart who now see's the Ultras as important. And our meeting we talked about a quite revolution. And by doing it the way we are other Macc fans will see that the Silkmen Ultras are nothing like those European Ultras.